Subject: Re: Problems with Premiere Opera
Author: Wagner Fan
Date: 6 Jul
Ref:

"premiereopera@aol.com" <edopera@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:74dcabce-e469-409f-9464-0f3a69825703@79g2000hsk.googlegroups.com...
On Jul 6, 12:35 am, "Wagner Fan" <wagner...@comcast.net> wrote:
> "premiereop...@aol.com" <edop...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> news:ffa1474a-35e8-4141-bd61-b66677d88445@y38g2000hsy.googlegroups.com...
> On Jul 5, 11:08 pm, dar...@live.com wrote:
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> > On Jul 5, 9:06 pm, "premiereop...@aol.com" <edop...@gmail.com> wrote:>
> > On
> > Jul 5, 2:01 pm, dar...@live.com wrote:
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> > Ed,
> > I can't believe after making me wait more than three months for an
> > order and after not canceling my order and refunding my money, after
> > two and a half weeks of almost daily requests, that YOU would have the
> > gall to criticize ME about anything!
>
> > After searching the internet last week and finding this group, I
> > realized that you had, at least at one time, posted here. So, yes, my
> > posting the details of this pathetic and still ongoing fiasco was done
> > in part to warn others but, also, in the hopes that you might be
> > embarrassed into finally doing the right thing. Nothing else had
> > seemed to work.
>
> > As for the "disorganized mess" comment, I thought I was being
> > complimentary, Ed. For after all, if you aren't that, then what excuse
> > do you have left for stringing me along as you have, with occasional
> > email responses, promising to cancel my order and refund my money and,
> > still, nothing?
>
> > You say you won't communicate with me anymore. Ed, I'm sick and tired
> > of communicating with you, too, either privately or through this
> > group. I just want my money back. Is that too difficult for you to
> > understand? That's all this is about.
>
> > And the funny thing is, Ed, at this point in the thread, I thought I
> > was helping you out, in fact, by showing that you're still saying
> > you'll make good on your promise. I really thought that my plan to
> > update the thread after getting a check would be in fact a good thing
> > for you.
>
> > But that's fine, if that's the way you want it. I won't update the
> > thread with that information. But, Ed, I do promise that I will update
> > the thread if I don't get that check by next week. You need to look
> > yourself in the mirror and face the fact that you drove me to posting
> > this information in the first place. How many countless emails have I
> > sent you over the past four months, and specifically since 6/18, when
> > I first asked you to refund my money? All you had to do, and all you
> > still have to do, is demonstrate that you're a legitimate and honest
> > businessman. I've done nothing to you, but, up till now, you've only
> > dealt dishonestly with me. I'm guessing you probably thought that just
> > shipping the order anyway a couple of days ago, and ignoring my many
> > cancellation requests, would somehow make things right, though I don't
> > know why you would think so.
>
> > Ed, for the millionth time, just send me my check and let's be done
> > with this. The ball has always been in your court.
>
> This is not the millionth time you have asked for a check. It is
> exactly the second time. The first time was earlier today. You certain
> deal in exaggerations and half truths. I have NOT dealt dishonestly
> with you. You are just using this ng as a big crybaby sounding board,
> thinking I would not answer. Well, I did break my word and answer, but
> that's because you have slandered my name and that of my company. If
> you think "disorganized mess" is complimentary, I suggest you look up
> the meaning of the word. So, to use your arithmatic, for the millionth
> time, this is not the place for this.
> Ed
>
> So he has not been waiting for THREE MONTHS for his product????? Wagner
> Fan- Hide quoted text -
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And exactly what does this mean to you? Bud out, or bud in. It makes
little difference. Are you a member of the internet police? Arrest me
then, since I am most certainly guilty of the most egregious crimes
known to man.
Ed

Shame on you - instead of apologizing to a customer for inexcusable
behavior - you come back with an attitude and call him a "cry-baby". He
posted here because he didn't know what else to do and this is the kind of
reply he receives??? I hope that, with the proliferation of live
performances readily available on the Internet, that your business does go
under - your kind of commercial business is doomed anyway but its exactly
what you deserve. I will contact him privately about other ways to get for
free the performances you charge for. Wagner Fan




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